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Postal closing would disrupt by-mail elections
Posted Jan 10, 2012
F. Ann Rodriguez Pima County Recorder
Closing a mail-sorting center in Tucson would not just delay mail delivery here, but would disrupt local elections conducted by mail, and nearly disenfranchise voters on the Tohono O'odham Nation, writes Pima County Recorder F. Ann Rodriguez.
Before I begin, let me reiterate that I am NOT in favor of the Tucson facility closing.
However, I believe that tying anyone’s voting rights into the situation is a stretch at best, and desperation at worst.
If this is legitimately an issue (which I doubt), do the right thing and make people go to the polling place. Voting by mail makes voter fraud WAY too easy, and if we could eliminate voter fraud around here we could also eliminate Grijalva as a congressman.
Just wondering why vote-by-mail is suddenly controversial now that Tucson has adopted it, when surrounding municipalities have conducted elections in that manner for years.
@Bret Linden
Just wondering why vote-by-mail is suddenly controversial now that Tucson has adopted it, when surrounding municipalities have conducted elections in that manner for years.
I’m glad you asked…
The election results in this town are absolutely mind-boggling to any reasonable, intelligent person. I’m not talking partisanship here, I’m talking about accountability. The politicians in this town call for boycotts of the state, call our community the “mecca of hate and bigotry”, embezzle a quarter of a billion dollars from taxpayers under the guise of redeveloping downtown, something that should be handled by the private sector anyway, show their ignorance by stating on radio shows “the First Amendment says he have to treat each other with respect”...yet, despite these things and soooooooo many others, the same old politicians keep getting reelected. Tucson has miles and miles of cratered road, yet millions is going to build a choo-choo train that few will ever use. A congresswoman mismanaged her decades-old family tire shop into the ground, then goes to congress and votes for bailouts and corporate welfare. We had a police chief that authorized a military-style invasion of Fourth Avenue a few years back, in which dozens of law-abiding Tucsonans were injured, but the city council who thought it would be a good idea to make this same guy acting city manager all got either elected or reelected.
Most people, and I believe this has to be true even in this town, don’t want their community embarrassed and don’t want their tax dollars either mismanaged or stolen. So, the fact that the same so-called “leaders” that engage in these behaviors keep supposedly getting reelected shows us that something is very, very, very wrong with the voting process around here.
Because of incorrect court rulings in recent years, a by-mail voter, at no point in the process, has to show identification. All they have to do is fill out the form and provide a signature to register to vote. How in the world do we know that those voting are legally entitled to do so? How do we know that everyone is voting once, and not multiple times? The recorder’s office just basically takes their word for everything, and the person registering doesn’t have to prove anything he’s saying.
Getting back to your question Dylan, why is it suddenly a problem now that Tucson is doing it? Well, my theory is that in these other municipalities you speak of the election results make some semblance of sense, therefore no red flags have been raised. That is not true here in Tucson, at several layers of government.
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3 comments on this story
Before I begin, let me reiterate that I am NOT in favor of the Tucson facility closing.
However, I believe that tying anyone’s voting rights into the situation is a stretch at best, and desperation at worst.
If this is legitimately an issue (which I doubt), do the right thing and make people go to the polling place. Voting by mail makes voter fraud WAY too easy, and if we could eliminate voter fraud around here we could also eliminate Grijalva as a congressman.
@Bret Linden
Just wondering why vote-by-mail is suddenly controversial now that Tucson has adopted it, when surrounding municipalities have conducted elections in that manner for years.
Dylan Smith asserted:
I’m glad you asked…
The election results in this town are absolutely mind-boggling to any reasonable, intelligent person. I’m not talking partisanship here, I’m talking about accountability. The politicians in this town call for boycotts of the state, call our community the “mecca of hate and bigotry”, embezzle a quarter of a billion dollars from taxpayers under the guise of redeveloping downtown, something that should be handled by the private sector anyway, show their ignorance by stating on radio shows “the First Amendment says he have to treat each other with respect”...yet, despite these things and soooooooo many others, the same old politicians keep getting reelected. Tucson has miles and miles of cratered road, yet millions is going to build a choo-choo train that few will ever use. A congresswoman mismanaged her decades-old family tire shop into the ground, then goes to congress and votes for bailouts and corporate welfare. We had a police chief that authorized a military-style invasion of Fourth Avenue a few years back, in which dozens of law-abiding Tucsonans were injured, but the city council who thought it would be a good idea to make this same guy acting city manager all got either elected or reelected.
Most people, and I believe this has to be true even in this town, don’t want their community embarrassed and don’t want their tax dollars either mismanaged or stolen. So, the fact that the same so-called “leaders” that engage in these behaviors keep supposedly getting reelected shows us that something is very, very, very wrong with the voting process around here.
Because of incorrect court rulings in recent years, a by-mail voter, at no point in the process, has to show identification. All they have to do is fill out the form and provide a signature to register to vote. How in the world do we know that those voting are legally entitled to do so? How do we know that everyone is voting once, and not multiple times? The recorder’s office just basically takes their word for everything, and the person registering doesn’t have to prove anything he’s saying.
Getting back to your question Dylan, why is it suddenly a problem now that Tucson is doing it? Well, my theory is that in these other municipalities you speak of the election results make some semblance of sense, therefore no red flags have been raised. That is not true here in Tucson, at several layers of government.