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Immigrants still surging into Texas shelters
Posted Dec 24, 2014
Julian Aguilar The Texas Tribune
The news crews have drifted away, and the national spotlight has turned elsewhere. But Central American immigrants continue to cross illegally into Texas, and their numbers seem to be growing again. Border officials and charities expect their humanitarian efforts to continue into the foreseeable future.
@trucho3 So, you have a home, your family lives there, and then a few MORE families show up at your door in the dark of night. They let themselves in, eat your food, crap up your bathroom, help themselves to the clothes in your closet, and then distribute themselves about your house to mark sleeping areas for all the kiddies and themsleves.
Trouble is, it takes all of YOUR budget to pay for the amenities you have for YOUR family. And you try to tell all the newcomers, NICELY, that you cannot afford to pay for ALL OF THEM.
So the ACLU jumps in and a judge grants an injunction against you to prevent their removal from your home.
Stop me here where you believe this isn’t what’s going on here. 85% of the Central Americans who’ve over run the border state quite plainly that they believe they have a better chance at a middle class life HERE rather than the toilet bowl country they came from.
And why might that be? Because in their FAILED economies, this entitlement mentality is WHAT RUINED THEM!!
Please tell me how destroying THIS country is going to help ANYONE! Why is it so Christian to take away the help OUR poor people could use, including ALL THE IMMIGRANTS THAT CAME HERE AFTER WAITING DUTIFULLY IN A LONG LINE TO DO IT RIGHT!
And once they “amnesty” all 11 million border runners (including Middle East terrorists), why exactly do you think the next 11 million won’t be standing in the wings for THEIR permisos?
@Cactus Dave
Be nice to hear some simple logic or rational thought instead of “White Supremacist” mudslinging.
Stop and think… just for a sec., about where this surge in southern border jumpers puts the bottom of our society. Do you presume that somehow the black community is supposed to stand aside? While we are constructing Mr. Roger’s Latino Neighborhood with free shelter, clothing, food, medical care, toys, entertainment, sports, salon styled hair care, and so much more, do we think that blacks just disappeared?
Do we believe, seriously, that we can absorb the entire southern hemisphere into our currently over loaded and tragically non-funded welfare system (remember, friend, we haven’t even BEGUN to feel the crunch of FREE Obamacaree)?
Do we really think that a country with illegals speaking at least 93 foreign languages can carry on the legacy of freedom and democracy when they have NO idea how it works?
Do you LOVE the idea that once our immigration system collapses, the most dominant migrants flooding in will be from the two countries with a BILLION people each? Think things might get just a TINY BIT complicated dealing with non-English speaking Indians and Chinese?
@sprint321
The great sadness here is the fact that Mexico’s (and all the south. hemisphere) best and brightest are coming here to make their way. We impoverish these countries while at the same time deflating the pressure to become more humane and peaceful places. Failed liberal policies accompanied by the stupendously failed War On Drugs are killing these economies and corrupting these countries.
The madness MUST END!
We need immigrants! Actually, we will fail in short order without them, due to unfunded mandates and social programs that will begin failing at high speed when the Baby Boomers start increasing the retiree suck up of resources (and I am one of them).
But if the immigrants are arriving because they’ve been taught to attach themselves to the social welfare system, we’re just going to fail much faster. God forgive us all.
msfitz you are not only a racist but a liar..illegals are NOT eligible for social welfare benefits except for their kids going to publlc schools and they probably work a lot harder than you and your klan buddies. Amazing that you are tattacking this man who has lived in Tucons for a number of years and has NEVER gone on any welfare benefits. You don’t like the fact that white bigots like yourself will be a minority group…
Ummm, I think it’s actually spelled, “public”, “attacking”, and “Tucson”, but no problemo.
Please refer to: “Immigrant Detention Center Has Hair Salon For Women”
August 1, 2014
CBS Houston
KARNES CITY, Texas (AP) “...convert an all-male detention facility about 50 miles Southeast of San Antonio into one that could temporarily house families”
“The feds estimate it will cost approximately $74,000 a day to house 532 immigrants at the center. “
According to Enrique Lucero, field office director for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the stay average: 23 days PER FAMILY!
“— immigrants will be processed through showers and health screenings and allowed to select clothes for themselves and their children. Mothers also can request diapers, baby bottles, pacifiers and blankets.”
“The center has a soccer field covered with artificial turf, basketball courts, ping pong tables and a weight room.”
“Further inside they will have access to a dental care, a bilingual library, playrooms, child care, pay phones, flat-screen TVs, free Internet access, indoor and outdoor basketball courts, weightlifting equipment, a small soccer field and a soon-to-be installed playground play scape.”
“The Karnes County Residential Center is the third such family center in the nation, with the others in the New Mexico and Pennsylvania” with more to come.
NOW, please substitute “veteran” for “immigrant”. Ever gonna see THAT happen? No, senor.
And bear in mind:
“The investigators said some illegal immigrants’ “unfamiliarity with bathroom facilities resulted in unsanitary conditions and exposure to human waste” in some of the facilities.”
Despite having called at least 22 different places home, I haven’t actually ever met, or met anyone who’s met, a “klan” member, although I remember that Democrat Bob Byrd held a position of high authority in that organization.
And you never even ASKED what color I was! I would love to have a laugh over THAT one! BTW, are you, “that man” I supposedly tattacked?
maybe you want to throw these people out in a dungeon you pos. and notice the word “detention center”:...kind of like “jail”. Please crawl back under your rock troll
Thousands of illegals use a ITIN number to get a tax refund for children they don’t have. They bilk the country a taxpayers out of billions each year. http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2014/08/27/irs-still-struggling-with-tax-treatment-of-immigrants-changes-rules-again/
Curious why you have to resort to name calling. @Cactus Dave
Looks like Ms Fitz and her buddies trolling this article are Birchers…the garbage about the UN and the other crap about “free stuff” is so ridiculous it is not worth even debating since I can repeat until I am blue in the face you CAN NOT receive benefits without proving citizenship and eligibility, and most illegals avoid any govt officials like the plague since they are afraid of being sent back.Some illegals will risk dying when injured if they need an ambulance (emts wear uniforms) The stupidity ignorance and bigotry of Ms Fitz and m jazzguitar and the rest of you is beyond foul during the holiday season..thought I think youare all the same person using different accounts
@Cactus Dave That would be a big NO. It costs a fortune to incarcerate anyone so it would be a mistaken strategy to jail them. Simply send them home. First class, if you wish. That would be a great deal cheaper than any dungeon.
“Detention” center confuses you, apparently. Anyone who is “detained” is actually free to go home. They are being “detained” because they don’t want to be FREE. They want to stay, permenantly.
I found this telling:
“TucsonSentinel.com’s original reporting and curation of border and immigration news is generously supported in part by a grant from the Ethics and Excellence in Journalism Foundation.”
George Soros funds both Catholic Charities AND Ethics and Excellence in Journalism Foundation.
Thanks for letting us know. The stories will definitely have a progressive pro illegal alien slant. The headline still should worry most as the the border is not secure as we have been told since the surge is still going on. @OHIO GAL
To our knowledge, Soros has *nothing* to do with EEJF � they’ve got a very healthy investment fund of their own. You can check out their tax return, if you’d like: http://990s.foundationcenter.org/990pf_pdf_archive/731/731167175/731167175_201306_990PF.pdf?_ga=1.220056336.802588295.1419219673
Even if he did, so what? We have plenty of local Republicans, even some very right-wing ones, who support our work, as they know it’s nonpartisan and accurate. You implication that any of our funders could sway the content of our work is beyond offensive, but we’ll excuse your ignorance as you’re both new around here, and indeed not from around here at all.
I’ll also note that this story was reported by the Texas Tribune, another independent nonprofit news organization with a broad base of funders for its nonpartisan work.
Doesn’t that work both ways since you are Tucson and story is TX? Either way, the border is not secure and the government is encouraging more to come as story indicates. 70% of this past summers flood has not shown up for their court dates after they were released nor were they background checked as promised. If a Eastern European overstays their visa it is the same in my eyes as the ones walking across southern border so it’s not a question of race it’s a question of right and wrong and rewarding bad behavior.
@Cactus Dave@Cactus DaveActually Soros is the anti-Semitic. In your haste to attack me personally you must have missed this: Here is a partial transcript from an interview done by Steve Kroft for CBS’ 60 Minutes George Soros on December 20, 1998:
George Soros Interview On 60 Minutes
When the Nazis occupied Budapest in 1944, George Soros’ father was a successful lawyer. He lived on an island in the Danube and liked to commute to work in a rowboat. But knowing there were problems ahead for the Jews, he decided to split his family up. He bought them forged papers and he bribed a government official to take 14-year-old George Soros in and swear that he was his Christian godson. But survival carried a heavy price tag. While hundreds of thousands of Hungarian Jews were being shipped off to the death camps, George Soros accompanied his phony godfather on his appointed rounds, confiscating property from the Jews.
KROFT: Went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews.
KROFT: My understanding is that you went out with this protector of yours who swore that you were his adopted godson.
Mr. SOROS: Yes. Yes.
KROFT: Went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews.
Mr. SOROS: Yes. That’s right. Yes.
KROFT: I mean, that’s—that sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the psychiatric couch for many, many years. Was it difficult?
Mr. SOROS: Not—not at all. Not at all. Maybe as a child you don’t—you don’t see the connection. But it was—it created no—no problem at all.
KROFT: No feeling of guilt?
Mr. SOROS: No.
KROFT: For example that, ‘I’m Jewish and here I am, watching these people go. I could just as easily be there. I should be there.’ None of that?
Mr. SOROS: Well, of course I c—I could be on the other side or I could be the one from whom the thing is being taken away. But there was no sense that I shouldn’t be there, because that was—well, actually, in a funny way, it’s just like in markets—that if I weren’t there—of course, I wasn’t doing it, but somebody else would—would—would be taking it away anyhow. And it was the—whether I was there or not, I was only a spectator, the property was being taken away. So the—I had no role in taking away that property. So I had no sense of guilt.
In Soros: The Life and Times of a Messianic Billionaire - a book cited by Beck during today’s program—Michael T. Kaufman detailed Soros’s reaction during the interview, as well as Soros’ actions in Nazi-occupied Hungary:
While he was living with Baumbach as Sandor Kiss, an event occurred that more than a half a century later would become the basis of charges that George Soros, the international financier and billionaire, had somehow collaborated with the Nazi occupiers of his homeland and had exploited his fellow Jews. The issue was raised in a bizarre television profile and interview of Soros aired on the CBS television program 60 Minutes in December of 1998. In the segment, Steve Kroft, the interviewer, noted with prosecutorial gusto that George’s father had “bribed a government official to swear that you were his godson,” and added that this survival strategy “carried a heavy price tag.” For, he continued, “as hundreds of thousands of Jews were being shipped off to the Nazi death camps, a thirteen-year-old George Soros accompanied his phony godfather on his rounds, confiscating property from the Jews.” Visibly dumbfounded by the line of questioning, Soros could only manage to say that he had no role in the seizure of property and was merely a spectator. To underscore Kroft’s point, film footage showed masses of Hungarian Jews being led away at gunpoint.


This is what actually happened. Shortly after George went to live with Baumbach, the man was assigned to take inventory on the vast estate of Mor Kornfeld, an extremely wealthy aristocrat of Jewish origin. The Kornfeld family had the wealth, wisdom, and connections to be able to leave some of its belongings behind in exchange for permission to make their way to Lisbon. Baumbach was ordered to go to the Kornfeld estate and inventory the artworks, furnishings, and other property. Rather than leave his “godson” behind in Budapest for three days, he took the boy with him. As Baumbach itemized the material, George walked around the grounds and spent time with Kornfeld’s staff. It was his first visit to such a mansion, and the first time he rode a horse. He collaborated with no one and he paid attention to what he understood to be his primary responsibility: making sure that no one doubted that he was Sandor Kiss. Among his practical concerns was to make sure that no one saw him pee. [Page 37]
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@trucho3 So, you have a home, your family lives there, and then a few MORE families show up at your door in the dark of night. They let themselves in, eat your food, crap up your bathroom, help themselves to the clothes in your closet, and then distribute themselves about your house to mark sleeping areas for all the kiddies and themsleves.
Trouble is, it takes all of YOUR budget to pay for the amenities you have for YOUR family. And you try to tell all the newcomers, NICELY, that you cannot afford to pay for ALL OF THEM.
So the ACLU jumps in and a judge grants an injunction against you to prevent their removal from your home.
Stop me here where you believe this isn’t what’s going on here. 85% of the Central Americans who’ve over run the border state quite plainly that they believe they have a better chance at a middle class life HERE rather than the toilet bowl country they came from.
And why might that be? Because in their FAILED economies, this entitlement mentality is WHAT RUINED THEM!!
Please tell me how destroying THIS country is going to help ANYONE! Why is it so Christian to take away the help OUR poor people could use, including ALL THE IMMIGRANTS THAT CAME HERE AFTER WAITING DUTIFULLY IN A LONG LINE TO DO IT RIGHT!
And once they “amnesty” all 11 million border runners (including Middle East terrorists), why exactly do you think the next 11 million won’t be standing in the wings for THEIR permisos?
@Cactus Dave
Be nice to hear some simple logic or rational thought instead of “White Supremacist” mudslinging.
Stop and think… just for a sec., about where this surge in southern border jumpers puts the bottom of our society. Do you presume that somehow the black community is supposed to stand aside? While we are constructing Mr. Roger’s Latino Neighborhood with free shelter, clothing, food, medical care, toys, entertainment, sports, salon styled hair care, and so much more, do we think that blacks just disappeared?
Do we believe, seriously, that we can absorb the entire southern hemisphere into our currently over loaded and tragically non-funded welfare system (remember, friend, we haven’t even BEGUN to feel the crunch of FREE Obamacaree)?
Do we really think that a country with illegals speaking at least 93 foreign languages can carry on the legacy of freedom and democracy when they have NO idea how it works?
Do you LOVE the idea that once our immigration system collapses, the most dominant migrants flooding in will be from the two countries with a BILLION people each? Think things might get just a TINY BIT complicated dealing with non-English speaking Indians and Chinese?
I know… I’m a white racist. Sigh…
@sprint321
The great sadness here is the fact that Mexico’s (and all the south. hemisphere) best and brightest are coming here to make their way. We impoverish these countries while at the same time deflating the pressure to become more humane and peaceful places. Failed liberal policies accompanied by the stupendously failed War On Drugs are killing these economies and corrupting these countries.
The madness MUST END!
We need immigrants! Actually, we will fail in short order without them, due to unfunded mandates and social programs that will begin failing at high speed when the Baby Boomers start increasing the retiree suck up of resources (and I am one of them).
But if the immigrants are arriving because they’ve been taught to attach themselves to the social welfare system, we’re just going to fail much faster. God forgive us all.
msfitz you are not only a racist but a liar..illegals are NOT eligible for social welfare benefits except for their kids going to publlc schools and they probably work a lot harder than you and your klan buddies. Amazing that you are tattacking this man who has lived in Tucons for a number of years and has NEVER gone on any welfare benefits. You don’t like the fact that white bigots like yourself will be a minority group…
Ummm, I think it’s actually spelled, “public”, “attacking”, and “Tucson”, but no problemo.
Please refer to: “Immigrant Detention Center Has Hair Salon For Women”
August 1, 2014
CBS Houston
KARNES CITY, Texas (AP) “...convert an all-male detention facility about 50 miles Southeast of San Antonio into one that could temporarily house families”
“The feds estimate it will cost approximately $74,000 a day to house 532 immigrants at the center. “
According to Enrique Lucero, field office director for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the stay average: 23 days PER FAMILY!
“— immigrants will be processed through showers and health screenings and allowed to select clothes for themselves and their children. Mothers also can request diapers, baby bottles, pacifiers and blankets.”
“The center has a soccer field covered with artificial turf, basketball courts, ping pong tables and a weight room.”
“Further inside they will have access to a dental care, a bilingual library, playrooms, child care, pay phones, flat-screen TVs, free Internet access, indoor and outdoor basketball courts, weightlifting equipment, a small soccer field and a soon-to-be installed playground play scape.”
“The Karnes County Residential Center is the third such family center in the nation, with the others in the New Mexico and Pennsylvania” with more to come.
NOW, please substitute “veteran” for “immigrant”. Ever gonna see THAT happen? No, senor.
And bear in mind:
“The investigators said some illegal immigrants’ “unfamiliarity with bathroom facilities resulted in unsanitary conditions and exposure to human waste” in some of the facilities.”
Despite having called at least 22 different places home, I haven’t actually ever met, or met anyone who’s met, a “klan” member, although I remember that Democrat Bob Byrd held a position of high authority in that organization.
And you never even ASKED what color I was! I would love to have a laugh over THAT one! BTW, are you, “that man” I supposedly tattacked?
maybe you want to throw these people out in a dungeon you pos. and notice the word “detention center”:...kind of like “jail”. Please crawl back under your rock troll
Thousands of illegals use a ITIN number to get a tax refund for children they don’t have. They bilk the country a taxpayers out of billions each year. http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2014/08/27/irs-still-struggling-with-tax-treatment-of-immigrants-changes-rules-again/
Curious why you have to resort to name calling.
@Cactus Dave
Looks like Ms Fitz and her buddies trolling this article are Birchers…the garbage about the UN and the other crap about “free stuff” is so ridiculous it is not worth even debating since I can repeat until I am blue in the face you CAN NOT receive benefits without proving citizenship and eligibility, and most illegals avoid any govt officials like the plague since they are afraid of being sent back.Some illegals will risk dying when injured if they need an ambulance (emts wear uniforms) The stupidity ignorance and bigotry of Ms Fitz and m jazzguitar and the rest of you is beyond foul during the holiday season..thought I think youare all the same person using different accounts
@Cactus Dave That would be a big NO. It costs a fortune to incarcerate anyone so it would be a mistaken strategy to jail them. Simply send them home. First class, if you wish. That would be a great deal cheaper than any dungeon.
“Detention” center confuses you, apparently. Anyone who is “detained” is actually free to go home. They are being “detained” because they don’t want to be FREE. They want to stay, permenantly.
I found this telling:
“TucsonSentinel.com’s original reporting and curation of border and immigration news is generously supported in part by a grant from the Ethics and Excellence in Journalism Foundation.”
George Soros funds both Catholic Charities AND Ethics and Excellence in Journalism Foundation.
This should have been disclosed in the article.
Thanks for letting us know. The stories will definitely have a progressive pro illegal alien slant. The headline still should worry most as the the border is not secure as we have been told since the surge is still going on. @OHIO GAL
Looks like we have another white wing troll…Ohio Gal…George Soros is the fav whipping boy for anti Semitic right wing Teabaggers
@OHIO GAL,
To our knowledge, Soros has *nothing* to do with EEJF � they’ve got a very healthy investment fund of their own. You can check out their tax return, if you’d like: http://990s.foundationcenter.org/990pf_pdf_archive/731/731167175/731167175_201306_990PF.pdf?_ga=1.220056336.802588295.1419219673
Even if he did, so what? We have plenty of local Republicans, even some very right-wing ones, who support our work, as they know it’s nonpartisan and accurate. You implication that any of our funders could sway the content of our work is beyond offensive, but we’ll excuse your ignorance as you’re both new around here, and indeed not from around here at all.
I’ll also note that this story was reported by the Texas Tribune, another independent nonprofit news organization with a broad base of funders for its nonpartisan work.
@Dylan Smith
Doesn’t that work both ways since you are Tucson and story is TX? Either way, the border is not secure and the government is encouraging more to come as story indicates. 70% of this past summers flood has not shown up for their court dates after they were released nor were they background checked as promised. If a Eastern European overstays their visa it is the same in my eyes as the ones walking across southern border so it’s not a question of race it’s a question of right and wrong and rewarding bad behavior.
@Cactus Dave@Cactus DaveActually Soros is the anti-Semitic. In your haste to attack me personally you must have missed this: Here is a partial transcript from an interview done by Steve Kroft for CBS’ 60 Minutes George Soros on December 20, 1998:
George Soros Interview On 60 Minutes
When the Nazis occupied Budapest in 1944, George Soros’ father was a successful lawyer. He lived on an island in the Danube and liked to commute to work in a rowboat. But knowing there were problems ahead for the Jews, he decided to split his family up. He bought them forged papers and he bribed a government official to take 14-year-old George Soros in and swear that he was his Christian godson. But survival carried a heavy price tag. While hundreds of thousands of Hungarian Jews were being shipped off to the death camps, George Soros accompanied his phony godfather on his appointed rounds, confiscating property from the Jews.
KROFT: Went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews.
Mr. SOROS: Yes. That’s right. Yes.
KROFT: No feeling of guilt?
Mr. SOROS: No.
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