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Baja Arizona?

Group wants Pima County to divorce Arizona

Gazing up at the mosaic dome of the old Pima County Courthouse, Paul Eckerstrom sees a potential capitol building for a 51st state: Baja Arizona.

Pima County politicians have joked about the idea of political separation from more-conservative Maricopa County for decades.

But the Legislature's recent moves on topics including immigration caused Eckerstrom and others to stop laughing and form a political committee advocating that this county of more than 1 million people separate from Arizona.

"We want to make this a serious effort, at least to send a message up to Phoenix – a message to the country—that we want moderation in our state," said Eckerstrom, a former state Democratic Party chairman and co-chairman of a group calling itself Start Our State.

Controversial immigration bills, cuts to university funding and efforts to nullify federal laws also prompted the group to act, Eckerstrom said.

"People here are kind of at the breaking point," he said. "The final straw was the nullification bills going through the Senate right now… that are frankly secession from our country, and we down here want to stay in the United States—we want to be American."

David Euchner, the group's treasurer and former chairman of the county's Libertarian Party, said recent legislation on immigration and abortion pushed him over the edge.

"As much as I disagree with what Barack Obama has done or what our Democratic Congress did the last two years, I much more strongly disagree with what Russell Pearce and Jan Brewer have done to our state government," he said.

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Start Our State filed for official committee status last week, making it the first political committee to pursue secession, Eckerstrom said.

The group wants to put a non-binding resolution addressing the issue before Pima County voters in 2012. If approved, the measure would come to a vote in either the Legislature or a statewide referendum.

If all of that were to pass, Congress and the president would have to approve the new state.

Euchner said the movement welcomes other counties, but each would need to conduct its own referendum.

Then there's the proposed state's name, which would also be up to voters. Eckerstrom said he has received several suggestions, including Baja Arizona, South Arizona and Gadsden, in reference to the 1854 Gadsden Purchase of southern Arizona from Mexico.

Democratic Sens. Paula Aboud and Linda Lopez, of Tucson, supported a tongue-in-cheek amendment last week to allow Pima County to secede in an attempt to dissuade passage of a bill establishing a committee to nullify federal laws, Lopez said. The Senate Committee of the Whole rejected the amendment.

"Unbeknownst to us, down here in Pima County they were talking seriously about becoming their own state," Lopez said. "I support their right to want to do that, but I don't know how it would work in actuality."

Tucson mayoral candidate Ron Asta, a Republican, said he doubts voters would ever approve of a separation, particularly in the more conservative areas surrounding Tucson.

"I don't think they'll be in favor of it," he said. "There's a real strong conservative challenge."

Jeff Rogers, chair of the Pima County Democratic Party, said he thinks voters might approve a separation, but he said political pressures in Congress make the measure's final passage very unlikely.

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"The logistics of it seem to fall apart," he said.

While Eckerstrom and Euchner agree that their movement faces difficulties, they said support will only grow if the Legislature continues on its current course.

"If given the choice between seceding from the Union to stay with Arizona and seceding from Arizona to stay part of the Union, I choose the latter hands down," Euchner said.

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Mar 4, 2011, 2:41 pm
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You have a huge state! It’s called Mexico!
Go back home to your sink hole and stop messing with the once wonderful United States!

You are not wanted here or haven’t you noticed.

Mar 2, 2011, 2:38 pm
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@PortTabaccoYou’re right about this being a pro mex group that wants to defect.  We could get rid of maybe half the illegals just by letting them go.  Just imagine the money we could save.

Mar 2, 2011, 12:55 pm
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What this pro-Mexican group is hoping for is to create a new state so that they can do whatever they wish.
Most people in Arizona wanted all illegal aliens out of their state! The crime, the drugs, and the mayhem is
not anything American citizens want.
You are grasping at straws! And you will lose.
Arizona has been a state for decades and now a few looney tunes are angry because their Tia’s and Tio’s
from Mexico can’t live there anymore.
If you want to start a new state please go back to Mexico and start one there. But of course you looney tunes don’t have the guts to do that.
Instead you wish to destroy a wonderful nation that
now doesn’t even recognize it’s country anymore.
I wish I could turn the clock back to 1950 when you creeps from south of the border did not exist here in Arizona or anywhere except in small area’s that were trashy due to their own making.

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The Pima County Courthouse in Tucson is one place Start Our State considers a potential new state capitol.

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History of state divorces

  • Maine: After four consecutive voter referendums pressed the issue, the Massachusetts legislature agreed to grant Maine statehood in its own right as part of the Missouri Compromise in 1820.
  • West Virginia: West Virginia replaced Confederate Virginia in Congress in 1861 to remain in the Union during the Civil War.