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The HLC has no credibility and it should withdraw its probation of Pima College. I have yet to see actual, substantial documentation of support for the complaints on which the HLC issued probation on the college. ... Read more»

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Apr 23, 2013, 3:51 pm
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Well, Iadevia, I see that you didn’t call yourself “Doctor” here, and I know PCC wouldn’t let you after they found out you got your PhD from an unaccredited paper mill. But, on your personal website you still haven’t made the correction. And your ego has run so amok that you created a wikipedia entry for yourself? Please…

Let me state that, at no time (to my knowledge) since the HLC investigation started has any entity called into question the quality of academia provided by PCC. I’ll add to that by stating that a majority of faculty at PCC I knew to be of high standard and took pride in their work. That stated, I don’t know if you’re a good teacher or not Iadevia as I have never taken one of your classes. But, after reading this piece, I can see that you can’t see the forest for the trees. I question whether or not someone who can’t see something so blatantly obvious should be teaching anyone anything.

The question that no one seems to want to ask is how could the Higher Learning Commission team have visited and accredited Pima for 10 years just three years ago?

That’s an easy one…at that time, no one had taken the time to tell the HLC what was going on. Many of the controversies at PCC had yet to break publicly at that time. When the accreditation team comes around every decade, PCC hand-picks who talks to them, and that is never people at the staff level. The president of your campus, Char Fugett, is a master at sweeping things under the rug. She built the “see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil” culture of the HR department before assuming the East Campus post (how in the hell does an HR person become a campus president, anyway?) That’s why many things stayed hidden for so long.

Where was the outcry from the small vocal groups then?

“small vocal groups”? You really want to stick with that one? Faculty Senate, Staff Council, AFSCME Local 449, ACES…those are small now?

I would say that the HLC has no credibility and it should withdraw its probation of Pima College.

Wow. The accrediting body of your employer has no credibility? OK, then the accreditation has no credibility and in turn the school has no credibility, right? PCC insiders already know that apparently you don’t have any problem with unaccredited schools, as that’s where you got your alleged PhD from. (See, you’re not the only one who can use the term “alleged”).

However, I have yet to see actual, substantial documentation of support for the complaints on which the HLC issued probation on the college.

Well, maybe you didn’t see it, because you were one of the people with your head in the sand. I saw it, and I can still prove much of it. I did prove some of it to the HLC. If you want to see my proof, I’m not difficult to contact privately.

Criterion Five, Core Component 5.B, “the institution’s governance and administrative structures promote effective leadership and support collaborative processes that enable the institution to fulfill its mission,” and Core Component 5.C, “the institution engages in systematic and integrated planning.”

Again I must ask how does the HLC evaluate compliance?

Well, let me see…treating everyone by one set of rules, the rules in the policy handbook is a good start. A Chancellor that doesn’t award no-bid contracts to his childhood friends and who keeps his penis to himself at work is also another great start to that one.

How is the severity measured…against what standards? What is the rubric used by the HLC?

How much more severity do you need? I know you’re used to working in a consequences-free environment, and maybe that’s what you’ve adapted your thinking to having been there 30 years, but those of us in the real world believe in accountability.

Criterion Five, Core Component 5.B, “the institution’s governance and administrative structures promote effective leadership and support collaborative processes that enable the institution to fulfill its mission,” and Core Component 5.C, “the institution engages in systematic and integrated planning.”

Again I must ask how does the HLC evaluate compliance?

Any successes PCC has had was because of the people who worked there who cared about the mission and the students (which, as I stated, was a majority of them). I assure you, in many cases this was achieved despite the leadership, not because of it. “Effective leadership” does not even come close to describing many in PCC.

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Apr 23, 2013, 3:54 pm
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In the meantime the four Board members should not resign. If there is such an outcry of public dissatisfaction with those four Board members then the public will show that dissatisfaction by way of the appropriate legal means available.

Lovely. So, instead of doing the right thing and stepping aside they should force us all through recall elections that will cost this community money and time, time PCC doesn’t have. This idiotic piece aside, I have seen or heard nothing that suggests the Flores Board has anyone’s support but their own. I have seen and heard plenty to the contrary. If the Flores Board has so much support…where are they? Why aren’t they stepping up?

Let me remind everyone that Dr. (A legit PhD, not one like Iadevia) Sylvia Lee has also called for the Flores Board to resign. She knows what she’s talking about. She was a Campus President (and prior to that, held other administrative positions) during Flores’ reign. She sees things for how they are, and how they were. Is Iadevia really calling into question her credibility?

This piece showed that it is Iadevia that has no credibility, not the HLC.

Iadevia doesn’t get it, neither does Miles nor the Flores Board nor too many others toward the top at PCC. The HLC is it. There’s no appeal process. Instead of telling them they’re wrong and treating them like they’re idiots who don’t know what they’re talking about, PCC would be best served by just figuratively stating “Yes, Sir” and make the very reasonable overdue corrections that the HLC is calling for. Fighting the HLC only decreases the chances of PCC successfully emerging from probation. PCC’s chances aren’t good as it is.

I hope Iadevia is going to be satisfied working at PCC for 32 years, because with attitudes such as his PCC will be forced to close up shop because Iadevia can reach 33.

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1768 comments
Apr 23, 2013, 3:58 pm
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*BEFORE Iadevia can reach 33 I mean to say. This forum has no edit function, sorry.

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Apr 23, 2013, 10:11 pm
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So I guess the Southern Arizona Leadership Council is also a “small group” huh?

http://azstarnet.com/news/local/tucson-business-group-plans-to-seek-resignation-of-pcc-board/article_cbe25c06-ac77-11e2-86da-0019bb2963f4.html

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