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Police evict Occupy Tucson from downtown park

Tucson police ordered Occupy Tucson protesters from a downtown park Wednesday night after a critic of the camp rented the park. About 100 protesters removed tents and personal belongings from Veinte de Agosto Park as officers looked on. There was one arrest. (with video)... Read more»

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1766 comments
Dec 22, 2011, 2:40 pm
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It is about time. LONG overdue. Perhaps the change in mayor had something to do with it? I don’t know…just posing a question.

The Sentinel and other news outlets had correctly stopped feeding these trolls by ending coverage of Occupy until last night when they were finally kicked out. Kudos.

Their 15 minutes ran out a long time ago. They never could come up with a unified, coherent message, and they didn’t change a damn thing (for the better).

All of that said…I know this was coming eventually, I just thought it would take another month. Not even this brain dead city council would let this eyesore continue into Gem Show season. The Gem Show and Tucson are on somewhat shaky ground as it is.

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1766 comments
Dec 22, 2011, 4:28 pm
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Dylan, I must ask a question…

About a third of the way in to the video I’m hearing power tools, like a circular saw or a grinder or something like that. What was that about?

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Dec 22, 2011, 7:15 pm
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The sound was an angle grinder. They were removing a bicycle that was locked to public property.

The real test of whether someone understands America, Freedom, and the intent of the Founding Fathers when they began this experiment, is how they react to those that are exercising their freedoms in a manner that isn’t parallel to their own.
I believe the finest example of someone that understood that wrote, “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it”, in a biography of Voltaire.
And there are only three reasons that someone wouldn’t know what the Occupy Movement’s message is:
They refuse to acknowledge any message, as that would not be politically expedient; they aren’t paying any sort of attention to current affairs; or, they aren’t very bright.
Shaun McClusky’s actions are a micro-cosmic representation of what the real problem here is. The rich using money to deny the 99% their freedoms. I’d be willing to bet my house that Mr. McClusky would have never even considered a food drive in a public park downtown had it not been occupied by those he disagreed with politically.
In that, the Occupiers have succeeded in getting a rich 1% wannabe to expend some of his personal war-chest to feed the poor.
If he wants to call that a win, I say, ‘Keep on, brother’!

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539 comments
Dec 22, 2011, 8:10 pm
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Centrist nailed the tool sound. You can see a bit of the police working on one bike right before the arrest, and a photo of another lock being cut, also.

The constant hum is the many generators that were powering the floodlights.

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Dec 22, 2011, 10:37 pm
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@Dylan Smith

I saw the scene you are referring to, but it was really dimly-lit and I could not make out what was going on. I thought it may have been a lock being cut, but couldn’t be sure.

@Centrist

If I repeatedly punch you in the face, and then claim that is me exercising my first amendment right to free speech because I’m expressing my opinion…does that make it legal or right? I have freedoms, too, like having a park that my taxes paid for being available for its intended uses.

There is a fourth reason why someone doesn’t know what the hell the flea party was talking about…because the flea party didn’t either. There were far too many demands, far too many different voices, and it was so bad that it was just noise…kind of like on an old-style radio where you would pick up two or three different stations at one time, you couldn’t make any of it out.

I forgot which talking head described the flea party this way, but he said “if you took every liberal cause and put it in a blender, this is the goo that would come out”. Based on what I was able to piece together, that sounds about right to me.

Blame McClusky if you must, but the hard and fast truth that if it wasn’t him, the flea party would have been removed somehow someway before the Gem Show showed up. All McClusky did was move the timetable up by about a month…and kudos to him for doing so.

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1766 comments
Dec 23, 2011, 10:26 am
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Hey Dylan, I’m about to post something here which may or may not be against the rules. I read the terms of use and I acknowledge what I’m about to post is in a bit of a gray area. If you need to delete this I’ll understand and won’t be offended. But, please note I’m trying to make a point and not trying to be a jerk or bring heat to the Sentinel or anything like that.

Anyway, I was reading the ADS, and today they have a story “Judge rejects occupiers’ motion ” which contained an excerpt from a motion filed by Tucson City Attorney Mike Rankin. I want to post this excerpt because it near-perfectly articulates how I (and undoubtedly many others) see the Occupy movement, why I can’t take it seriously, and why I just can’t equate squatting in a park to freedom of speech…

Late last week, Tucson City Attorney Mike Rankin filed a motion asking that the lawsuit be dismissed, saying Occupy Tucson “has presented no real First Amendment claim.”

“None of (the) persons currently located at Veinte de Agosto Park are engaged in conveying any particularized message through their conduct; but are, instead, a group of loosely associated individuals, located in close proximity to a wide variety of signs that promote a broad collection of viewpoints generally related to ‘social change’ ” Rankin wrote.

Case law states demonstrators must prove they are conveying a “particularized message with (their) conduct” and there is a “substantial likelihood that the message will be understood by those who view it,” Rankin wrote.

“In this case, plaintiffs cannot articulate any particularized message in which they are engaged, let alone how the regulated conduct of sleeping in, camping in and ‘occupying’ city parks conveys any part of that particularized message,” Rankin wrote. “To the contrary, plaintiffs simply assert that ‘the occupation is the message; and the message is the occupation.’ “

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Dec 23, 2011, 8:30 pm
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Brett;
Still no more than three reasons that the Occupy movement isn’t understood. I beleive that the City Attorney has chosen the first, obviously. You pay close attention to current affairs, it seems, so you’re going to fall in with him or in the third category.
Ad hominem attacks are truly the last bastion of the people who haven’t a clue as to what to say next, but really want it to carry some weight.
And I don’t ‘blame’ McClosky, he’s responsible. It isn’t for suggest or decide, it’s simply a fact. One that he happily acknowledges.
In any case, the point that you missed is that there are folk in a public space making a political statement, asking for a redress of grievances (perhaps you should watch the video again for content as well) that have been usurped by someone that has an opposing opinion. And that person has only usurped that group of people because he has more money than they do.
And that is wrong. And it’s not American. And it’s happening all over this country. And that, sir, is what the Occupy movement is protesting.

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1766 comments
Dec 23, 2011, 8:45 pm
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Centrist asserted:

blah blah blah stupidity…

And that person has only usurped that group of people because he has more money than they do.
And that is wrong. And it’s not American. And it’s happening all over this country. And that, sir, is what the Occupy movement is protesting.

 

Well, let’s see…last time I checked, a permit to hold an event at a city park was $55. (If that is no longer correct, someone let me know).

The flea party has, or at least had, a lot more money than that which was eventually pissed away. From today’s Sentinel…

http://www.tucsonsentinel.com/nationworld/report/122311_ows_money/occupy-wall-street-where-did-all-money-go/

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