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Mexican gov't asks U.S. court to throw out SB 1070

The Mexican government jumped into the fight against Arizona's SB 1070 on Monday, telling a federal court that the immigration law "threatens to poison the well" of U.S.-Mexican diplomacy and could lead to racial profiling of Mexican citizens.... Read more»

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Jun 22, 2010, 5:30 pm
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When is the corrupt Mexican government, stop interfering with “THE PEOPLE” of this nation? How can a foreign government get involved in the state of Arizona’s laws. Perhaps they are getting worried that if we halt the illegal immigration invasion, the billions of dollars they transfer out the country will not get to the upper echelon of President Calderon’s administration who siphons much of the money off. Perhaps they are getting worried across the border, that they will not be able to push all their desperately poor populations across the border, so taxpayers financially subsidize them. One thing for sure Obama and his Liberal-Communist Czars are heading towards an all out war, on American soil. taxpayers have been supporting foreign nationals and “Anchor Babies” for years. Enough is Enough! Learn more at NumbersUSA. WE ARE GOING TO LOSE OUR COUNTRY IF WE DON’T THROW OUT ALL PRO-AMNESTY INCUMBENTS, STARTING WITH SEN. HARRY REID (D-NV) IN NOVEMBER?

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Jun 23, 2010, 9:30 pm
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nice but education is key my friend how about all the billions of tax dollars that Arizona & the country benefit from & keep due to unclaimed taxes no one complains about that money or how the good ole United States is the one that provides weapons to mexico they provided plenty of guns to the federales & local police in case you didn’t know guns are illegal in mexico and you will not find a gun shop anywhere in mexico especially border towns where the m16’s they carry are U.S military issued and you complain of anchor babies did you forget your one as well unless your native american then i apologize and Arizona is just as corrupt as mexico pay attention every once in a while and no one seems to complain about all the illegal untited stateians living in mexico stop being ignorant

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Jun 23, 2010, 10:01 pm
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UNBELIEVABLE.  Mexican Police are mandated to apprehend illegal aliens.  Mexico has ZERO tolerance for illegal aliens.  They are imprisoned.  They are deported.  SEEMS LIKE THE MEXICAN PRESIDENT NEEDS TO SUE HIMSELF for HIS treatment of illegal aliens!
Oh and if he would take care of HIS citizens they would not be in the USA illegally.

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Jun 23, 2010, 11:53 pm
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nice but education is key

Yes, yes it is.

how about all the billions of tax dollars that Arizona & the country benefit from & keep due to unclaimed taxes no one complains about that money

I am not a tax lawyer and I could indeed be wrong about the following so I can only comment on what I believe to be true. If I am wrong please correct me.

How is it that Social Security is still running out of funds even with all of these billions of dollars pumped into it from illegals? Are the illegals not receiving some form(s) of assistance from funds allocated for legal citizens of the United States? Yes in fact, some illegals do pay taxes and do not receive a refund as other legal citizens do, but there are ways around how much is deducted from your paychecks (see below). But it can be argued that at least a percentage of illegals are working “under the table” and being paid cash. How is that money taxed? Especially if the majority of it will be sent back to their families in their home countries. It is estimated that worldwide remittances (a transfer of money by a foreign worker to his or her home country) to amount to more than $126 billion. Remittances have become a considerable force in the economy of many countries. Among the countries that receive the most in remittances are Mexico, the Philippines and India.

As for filing taxes, if an illegal does in fact get a position in which he/she has to file a W-4 tax form, there is a section in which you make a claim as to what is to be deducted. The Employee’s Withholding Allowance Certificate is where this is totaled. If someone claims 1 (one), more taxes are taken out, however, if someone claims 4 (four), less taxes are taken out. What’s to say that the majority of illegals are not claiming a higher number in order to have less taxes taken out, if any at all. Since there are agencies who make it their mission to educate and file taxes pro bono for illegals, this could indeed be the case.

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Jun 23, 2010, 11:56 pm
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how the good ole United States is the one that provides weapons to mexico they provided plenty of guns to the federales & local police in case you didn’t know guns are illegal in mexico and you will not find a gun shop anywhere in mexico especially border towns where the m16’s they carry are U.S military issued

Yes the United States did/does in fact supply some weapons to the government of Mexico, however, some 150,000 Mexican Army soldiers have deserted in recent years, according to a Mexican Congressman. Many defected to go work for the drug cartels and took their weapons with them, including the standard issue M-16 assault rifle. I guess that is the United States fault as well?

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Jun 23, 2010, 11:57 pm
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you complain of anchor babies did you forget your one as well unless your native american… no one seems to complain about all the illegal untited stateians living in mexico stop being ignorant

The United State is a sovereign nation. Regardless of who’s land it used to belong to at one time or another the land now resides within the borders of the United States sovereignty. I hear a lot of comments around the web, on TV, and the inter-webs regarding who’s land it used to be, but they only wish to go back in history as far as it takes to support their claims. The origin of the land is still being understood. So how is it that people can claim that they were the “first” ones here since discoveries are being found that date earlier and earlier?

Please try and understand the usage of anchor baby. It is a crude term that refers to a non citizen coming into a foreign sovereign land in hopes that by having a child born on that land, in some cases making that child a naturalized citizen by birth, they themselves will be allowed to stay. It does not refer to a people who came to live in a foreign land, settled and had children.

I did not know that there was an issue of massive amounts of United States Citizens living in Mexico undocumented. I doubt that the Mexican government does either.

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Jun 24, 2010, 7:22 am
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My ancestors were from the Inuit tribes of Russian Alaska. My great, Grandfather was a Dutch Whaling Captain. So I have American Indian blood in my veins. Therefore—I have something to say. I agree wholeheartedly with the Arizona law and hope is enacted by every state. In addition, we must throw out of office all pro-amnesty incumbents, arrest an imprison employers who illegal hire. Our great US constitution that Americans have lived by, has been spat upon by and ignored by the Liberal extremists who are Czars in President Obama’s administration. They are a rancid part of the open border coalition who wants to overrun America, with paupers from third world countries. It is my believe that most American tribes would still be in the stone age, if it wasn’t for being educated by the White Europeans who settled here.

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Jun 24, 2010, 7:31 am
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Taxes and ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION..?

Each state should be aware that foreign nationals are cheating the I.R.S and the American taxpayers out of billions of dollars by using a Earned Income Tax Credit fraud with the use of fake or stolen Social Security numbers. CALIFORNIA is a SANCTUARY STATE and my guess this kind of fraud is underway in most homes of illegal immigrants. Steve Poizner and Meg Whitman or whoever becomes the new governor, better watch for this type of heinous fraud. Whitman might have the money? But does she have the guts to fight the Liberal Assembly,  that is pandering to the millions of illegal aliens which Poizner promised he’d do?  With a California estimated population of 10 million, it’s inevitable that foreign nationals have are well acquainted with this nice, easy scam. Not only can they defraud the US government by filing for non-existent children, they can collect money on their children living in another country.  Again, if they exist at all.  There is hardly very little follow up on this situation by the limited investigators of the IRS

In South Carolina an investigation brought this large scale fraud to light.  “One of the tax credit improperly claimed on a majority of the false returns was for child care expenses,” Assistant U.S. Attorney David C. Stephens “The credit can result in a refund even if no taxes were paid.”

YES! PAID NO TAXES!  NO WONDER OUR COUNTRY IS BEING RIPPED OFF.

Three months ago, ten illegal aliens pleaded guilty for their involvement in a $13 million fraud against the IRS. Those found guilty were Edgar Carrillo-Borjas, Miguel Angel Carrillo-Borjas, David Hernandez-Juarez, Ariana Canseco-Orozco, Maribel Juan-Orozco, Cristina Sanchez-Perez, Juan Carlos Carrillo-Roy, Carlos Carrillo-Rodriguez, all of Mexico, and Luis Gerardo Mora-Vargas, of Costa Rica.

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Jun 24, 2010, 7:35 am
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“This is the largest tax fraud case that I’m aware of ever occurring in the district of South Carolina,” said the prosecutor “This is an extraordinarily serious case.”

Acting U.S. Attorney Kevin F. McDonald said, “Between 2006 and November 2009, two tax preparation businesses, Seguros Internacionales, operating in Spartanburg and Forest City, NC, and Poz Servicios Para Hispanos, operating in Boiling Springs, along with affiliated individuals filed more than 10,000 federal income tax returns claiming more than $22 million in refunds.”

McDonald continued, “The IRS paid approximately $13 million in refunds before criminal investigators discovered most of the returns filed were fraudulent.  At least 20 people were involved in operating the scheme in which tax preparers knowingly claimed tax credits or deductions to which filers weren’t entitled.”

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Jun 24, 2010, 7:36 am
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A related tax credit—the Additional Child Tax Credit (ACTC)—pays this person another $1126 if his or her income was less than $16000.  For most families in this income bracket, the EITC check is the largest single sum of money.  So Illegal alien husbands and wives often file separate returns on which both claim the same kids.” More Evidence of EITC Fraud. Illegal immigrants defrauded the tax credit program. More than one in four immigrant households received the EITC in 2000—nearly twice the 13.2 percent rate of households headed by Native Americans. And because immigrant households are larger via higher fertility, their EITC payments are larger than those received by native households according to Ed Rubenstein, the author of “The Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC) is the largest anti-poverty program in the United States – and the most illegal-immigrant friendly.”

The most distressing aspect of EITC stems from unlawful immigrants tapping into the program on a massive scale.  For example, in Greeley, Colorado this year, district attorney Buck Young raided a tax filing agency to find over 1,000 fraudulent returns by unlawful workers. While they paid little or nothing in taxes, they received hundreds of thousands in bogus returns. In 2007, more than 23 million households received more than $47 billion in the EITC payments.”

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Jun 27, 2010, 9:21 am
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I am Pro- Migrant and believe in open borders. Mexicans have been coming to the States for years. They have made a valuable input to our society. Many of them over the years have been able to become legal and their families consider them as North Americans. The hate that goes on in this country is a disgrace.

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Jul 1, 2010, 1:52 pm
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I don’t believe that many U.S. citizens harbor hatred towards Migrants, or even Mexicans. But to simply allow people to come through the borders of the U.S. undocumented, undermines the sovereignty of this nation, disrespects our laws and put an undo burden on it’s citizens.
If we say it is acceptable for those living in Mexico or other South American countries to come into the U.S. without documentation, without investigations into their background, without health screenings and without going through the proper channels, why is it acceptable to not allow millions of starving, African citizens to come here for a better life? Why not allow the other millions of people who live farther away than our southern countries to come here for a shot at the “American Dream” if they can just get here.
Why not let the Extremist come into the country, or the Terrorist? Why not let in the child molester or the rapist, or even the murderer?
Why? Because it would destroy the United States. Just like what is currently happening.
We already have these types of problems in the U.S. and your open border policy would allow more to come in, undocumented, unregulated and uncontrollable.
On top of that, you the tax payer, would be paying for them, be it in social services, court/lawyer costs, detainment/conviction costs, healthcare costs, and a myriad assortment of other costs associated with undocumented “illegal” immigrants.

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