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High court grills both sides in Arizona redistricting case

Supreme Court justices grilled both sides in the Arizona Legislature's challenge of a voter-approved redistricting commission. Opponents say the Constitution give the job of redistricting to lawmakers, but some justices argued that ultimate legislative power belongs to voters.... Read more»

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Mar 2, 2015, 10:30 pm
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I have the magical solution, and I’ve been saying it for years…

Have three criteria, and three criteria only, for drawing the maps…
-equal in population
-contiguous
-as geographically rectangular as the first two criteria will allow

If you take out things like outdated, misinterpreted laws, and stop considering things that shouldn’t be considered anyway like skin color and political party, then there is no controversy. You put the census results in a computer once a decade and you have your maps drawn in less than 30 minutes. In this day and age a computer is the only entity that can be trusted to be unbiased, anyway.

Don’t let any of these guys fool you…the “Independent” Redistricting commission is anything but, and both parties are equally scummy when it comes to this issue. Both parties want to gerrymander, they’re just fighting for the control to gerrymander more. There is no good guy in this fight, only villains.

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Mar 3, 2015, 12:27 pm
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“Magic” isn’t real, Bret, and simple rules aren’t so simple in practice.

The Washington Post had a great piece on gerrymandering recently: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/03/01/this-is-the-best-explanation-of-gerrymandering-you-will-ever-see/

I’d recommend reading it, but this graphic gives a taste:
gerryv2.png&w=1000

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Mar 3, 2015, 12:43 pm
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Dylan, I understand the argument in favor of gerrymandering, I just don’t agree with it. But, that said, I read the article.

Not that this influenced by opinion on this (it didn’t), but I myself am affected by illogical gerrymandering. Despite the fact that I live in what most consider the Tucson Metro area, I am represented by Flagstaff’s Congresswoman. In a state with nine Congressional districts, only one makes their primary offices further away from my home than my own Congresswoman does. How in the world is this fair or even logical to me, the constituent?

In the story you linked, after reading it I clicked a few times out of it and came across a map that was drawn in the manner that I advocate, and I think it turned out pretty well. Here it is…

map.png

I oppose the two-party system, which is why I oppose gerrymandering. I don’t care which political party is in power where. I have to believe that the only people who support gerrymandering are people who actually like this two-party system, which is pretty much every politician and, unfortunately, apparently Supreme Court justices like it, too. :(

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Mar 3, 2015, 12:45 pm
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To be fair, I’ll add that the real villain in this issue is the electorate. If they would stop being so stupid and predictable in their voting behaviors, then gerrymandering becomes impossible.

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Arizona House Speaker David Gowan, in hat, and former Speaker Andy Tobin answer questions outside the Supreme Court, where lawmakers argued that the state's redistricting commission is unconstitutional.

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